{"id":1246,"date":"2009-09-06T06:30:01","date_gmt":"2009-09-06T06:30:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.betangel.com\/blog_wp\/?p=1246"},"modified":"2009-09-03T09:18:03","modified_gmt":"2009-09-03T09:18:03","slug":"there-is-some-value-in-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.betfairtradingblog.com\/blog_wp\/2009\/09\/06\/there-is-some-value-in-that\/","title":{"rendered":"There is some value in that"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I&#8217;ve often used this phrase and others often use this phrase, mainly incorrectly, so I felt I should qualify what it means!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Simply backing or laying something &#8216;Because it is value&#8217; just isn&#8217;t good enough. If we see something priced at 1.50 and we think is should be priced at 1.20 there is clearly defined value, 30% in fact. We could feel pretty confident about putting some decently money on that. While it may not win this time, doing it one hundred times would produce a decent return for us. But therein lies the problem, it&#8217;s not very common to see 30% edge in the market.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">I can price a number of markets very very accurately. But the edge I find is often quite narrow, maybe a few percent. Therefore, to return money over time, I must base my stake on the chance of winning and the theoretical margin of my edge. To place a bet any other way is just lunacy as the prospect of ruin lurks just around the corner of a bad run. In short , it&#8217;s possible to be right but still lose money because your staking method is shot to bits.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Most people use the Kelly Criterion or something similar to work out what they should stake. 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